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Great Quote

January 24, 2010

It’s technically false, but it’s still great:

Caring only for your own used to be called “selfish”; now it’s called “patriotism.”

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8 Comments leave one →
  1. larry c wilson permalink
    January 25, 2010 6:12 pm

    Why is it “great”?

  2. missivesfrommarx permalink*
    January 25, 2010 6:36 pm

    ’cause it draws attention to the ethical paradox of in-group loyalty …

  3. larry c wilson permalink
    January 25, 2010 10:09 pm

    It does?

  4. haytham permalink
    January 26, 2010 9:44 am

    I hate to ask the followup question: Why is it technically false?

  5. missivesfrommarx permalink*
    January 26, 2010 9:49 am

    It’s a big stretch to suggest that everyone before now thought that caring for one’s own was selfish …

  6. January 28, 2010 5:43 pm

    In-group loyalty might not make “ethical” sense, but it certainly makes very good sense from a practical point of view.

    Course Christ told me off for it… but if it wasn’t for that…

  7. missivesfrommarx permalink*
    January 29, 2010 2:37 pm

    I’d say it’s a double-edged sword. There are huge benefits to operating with in-group loyalty—but it makes less sense if there are people without groups or groups with widely disproportionate distributions of power.

  8. January 29, 2010 10:27 pm

    No, it still makes sense, the fact of people without groups missing out on the benefit goes to show how much sense it makes, even the most disadvantaged group is better off than a person entirely outside.
    But if there is a wide disproportion of power between groups, the answer I think is more to reduce the disproportion (although that has problems of its own, sometimes it is more stable to have a clear top and bottom than to have two close competitors) than to make everyone atomised.

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